Interview with american musician Jordan Kelch: the power of music for Jesus

Jordan Kelch is mostly known to be a musician but, first of all, he is a son of God and a great catholic guy. He is for sure multiples things at once: a catholic man and thus a follower of Jesus Christ; a guitar player and musician; a Youth Minister in the Parrish of Saint Antony (Ohio); also a student of the Franciscan University and a musical technician. But, among all the things is known for, catholic come first. As it should be. Faith is the key of a man, the revolution of a lifetime, the highway to Heaven. Ad Jesum per Mariam is my motto – and it’s, you know, the abc of catholicism. Jesus has to be the center of our life, according to our free will. I’m alive – my fingers are moving fast – because I’m catholic; had not been for my personal conversion to Christ, I would have died.

Jordan got my attention not because he is a musician, but because is a catholic musician – that’s mean that behind the musician there is a man of faith; through his music, faith is manifested. Using our talents and gifts for Jesus is one of the most great thing someone can do in his life. It’s not about vain glory, it’s about the glory of God. Sin effected – and still effecting – the world and a man can be either image and reflection of God or image and reflection of Satan. It’s up to us. Everyone are born to be beautiful souls of God: not everyone succeed. To become a beautiful soul is to follow God and to live the Gospel, ceasing the sin. As for the arts, everyone can be artist, not everyone are artists of quality. With God, we can be both. It’s up to us: our free will – our inner own – must choose.

I enjoyed this wonderful conversation I had with him. This is one of the most enchanting personal Interview I have ever done. I loved every bit of it. His sincerity, his heart opens to the reader, his personal thoughts on everything I asked over. Enjoy my interview – and explore his music – you can find Jordan Kelch on Instagram and Spotify.

Let me present you this peculiar artist, Jordan Kelch of Somehow, Grace.

Interview with Jordan Kelch of Somehow, Grace
“The catholic John Mayer”
Interconnecting faith, theology, arts and music

By © Fabio Arancio
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1. Hello Jordan, nice to meet you. I’m happy to have a conversation with a catholic artist. Let’s start our interview. Tell me: how it’s going, in 2021, as in faith, prayer and Sacraments?

Fabio, it’s great to finally sit down and talk with you. Being recognized as a Catholic artist is a beautiful thing, so thank you! As an introvert, 2021 has been a beautiful year of reflection and prayer. I have recently moved to Steubenville, Ohio in order to build a Catholic community around me as well as work on my Masters in Theology and Catechetics at Franciscan. The Sacraments are a major focus at this School, and in this area. It’s why I firmly believe in its success.

Being surrounded by this beauty and this amazing community cultivates an atmosphere for faith and prayer. Disregarding the etymology of those words, I can tell you I am in a season of growth, and there is nothing more joyful in hindsight than growth towards a better relationship with Christ.

2. To live Christ is to follow Christ. Knowing the Lord, while being passive in the process, is not enough, nor is it the path to Heaven. What does to “live” Christ mean to you? How do you make this concept real?

Ahh, what an interesting concept and question. You nailed it pretty simply there. To live Christ is to follow him. See, every morning after waking up, I hit my knees and tell the Lord to take away all things that are interfering with me serving Him. The thing is, we were created for one purpose, to serve Him who Is. God calls us to that constantly and consistently, and what good Father asks his children to do something without giving him the means of doing so. So I ask Him to take away all vice that interferes with that mission, all wounds to be healed, all questions answered. So when I get up off my knees, it is not to do what I want to do, but what he desires for me.

This brings me to my next point, we must recognize that knowledge of something doesnt mean we own it. If I explained to you everything there is to know about one of my guitars, it still would be your guitar. To own your faith does not necessarily mean to know your faith. It perhaps includes it, but it is definitely not proprietary to that. Let me tell you, that is much more peaceful way to live, cause there’s no pressure on me anymore! As cheesy as it sounds, to live Christ is to be yourself, fully revealed in Him.

3. Along with Jesus, Our Lord and Savior, what does having a personal relation with Mary, Our Mother and Queen, mean to you?

A few years ago I had a vision of Mary, Seat of Wisdom, Throne of Salvation. She appeared to me in full blue, carrying nothing but almonds. Through this vision all I could smell was (as expected) roses, and all I could taste was (a bit unexpected) dark chocolate. This caught me off guard, as one would surely guess. Why almonds specifically? We all know that blue means purity when in regard to Mary, but everything else confused me. So being the theologian I am, I investigated! Come to find out that almonds also stand for purity in Catholicism! This was the beginning of my song “Almond Blue.” In the song, I speak to Mary as she was in the vision. She told me to trust in her Son amidst all the temptation of sexual and immoral sin present in my life at the time. It is a dark, yet reflectively joyful song riddled with metaphor. To me, to have a relationship with Mary is just that! “Trust in my Son,” she said. It is much like having a relationship with the moon. Impossible if not for the moonlight merely being a reflection of the sunlight. Impossible if not for Mary reflecting her Son.

Side note, as I am sure you are curious, I am yet to understand why I tasted dark chocolate.

4. In your Instagram profile, I read “Seeker of true masculinity”. That is pretty interesting for me. Are we living a deep identity crisis today, according to you?

According to me? I don’t know much, but I know this. We are at odds with ourselves more than we ever have been in history. Now, am I saying that that is reason to despair? Not a bit. This time is simply showing the evil one using a different tactic than we have recorded in history. He is attacking the character of the person, pitting him against himself. That’s what I mean by being at odds with ourselves. The evil one is confusing man by forcing him to argue with his own interior understanding. Now, to seek does not mean to have obtained. I don’t claim to have figured out the trick to being an authentic man. Yet, to seek is much different than to be ignorant of masculinity altogether. There is a real difference between a real man, and a real boy (cue the pinocchio references).

5. There seems to be little room for Catholics, today. How do you find yourself as a catholic man, in the world of today, where everything has been secularized?

I say, embrace it. To be different doesn’t have to be scary. As the artist formerly known as Prince once said: “Cool means being able to hang with yourself. All you have to ask yourself is ‘Is there anybody I’m afraid of? Is there anybody who if I walked into a room and saw, I’d get nervous?’ If not, then you’re cool.”

Obviously Prince is speaking more generally, but I tend to ask myself this question a lot. And the only answer I can come up with is Christ Himself, and in all honesty, He should be the one that brings me peace, not anxiety! If Christ is all you have, what else do we need? As a man or a woman, in this overly secularized world, it’s definitely tough, I don’t want to downplay that. We are expected, as men, to be both tough and unbigoted. We are told to kill the spider, then yelled at because it seems we don’t allow women to kill the spider. This is the attack on the person. It is so very confusing in this world, that I have decided to stop caring about anything but the Lord. You may be surprised to hear that my music is called scandalous quite often, from both sides of the spectrum. But let me ask, does it look like I plan on stopping?

6. Our moral values seems to have been forgotten and disgusted. How do you feel being one of those who still believes in those eternal values, in the modern society?

You know, I would argue that our culture’s morals are not forgotten, but merely disfigured or demented, for lack of a better word. People are not inherently evil, they want to do good! Here’s what we have to recognize: pro choice advocates merely see the pain and suffering of single mothers and stop there. Porn addicts merely want to have intimacy with another person and seek instant pleasure and stop there. I could go on and on, but the point for me is this: People are good and desire to do good naturally, they just don’t take that desire to its necessary and fullest end. I see myself as a seeker of Truth, and I know I have found it. Truth is a person. As I mentioned earlier, that person and the spreading of this name is all that matters.

7. Combining faith and personal creativity is a unique chance to use our talent, in the lieu of the biblical revelation. Not only have we been given the talent, but we can use that talent, along with our gifts and resources, to express the Eternal Truth. What do you think about the importance of using the talent for God?

My mother once told me that what I do with my gift from God is my gift back to Him. I love that you mentioned “expressing Eternal Truth.” My lyrics, musical elements, etc are not simple. They are precise, and deep. They are intended to provoke as well as evoke. It is both/and for me! The importance lies in bringing truth to people, and people to the Truth. Sometimes the best way to do that is through our wounds. Through vulnerability we can help to heal people. That’s why a lot of my music, specifically my upcoming album, is so embedded with my own wounds and healing of those wounds in Christ. Go out and put your wounds on paper! Whether that be drawing, music, or even fingerpainting!

8. Interconnecting music and faith is one of the many ways we can use to express the Gospels. What are the biggest challenges you personally live in the process? Have you ever had the natural inclination to express your Catholic faith through the music?

Yeah, it’s tough. Haha! I won’t lie, writing theologically deep lyrics, without getting fed up with people calling you a bigot for being a Catholic is one thing. Another thing entirely is to be told you are scandalous by well meaning Catholics because you write with wounds and vulnerability. I prefer the approach of pain and wounds being healed in and through my music, directly reflecting Christ. Conveying a relationship with Christ in my brokenness and woundedness, while veering away from the repetitive worship songs. I am far too interested in seeing how Christ has put a light in my darkness than merely looking at the light. Wounds can only heal if they are vulnerable? Now, I don’t like to fully clench onto the Catholic musician title. Catholicism and Christianity is my life, not a genre of music. So whatever inclination to write about a particular point I have, it is merely because my life is all about my faith, and therefore my music speaks a lot about my faith.

9. As former wanna-be musician, I know how hard is it to make a living out of it, both as guitar player and songwriter. I shall presume that being a catholic musician is even more harder, given that we live in a niche. We as catholic do not use the «path with the devil», or at least I would not include it. How does it feel, for you, to be a catholic musician, trying to find out your space in the world of today? Is it that hard?

I tend to tell people I am a musician that is a serious Catholic, not a Catholic musician. You make an accurate presumption though, it’s not easy. Nor have I ever expected it to be so. When I began, I was swearing in my music, yelling, writing raunchy lyrics. I was an angry, angry artist. While it is a great output of great music, it didn’t convey my true self. This life I chose because Christ has called me to it. Even the birds of the air don’t worry (Mt 6:26), so if I am following Him, why should I? So in all respects, yes it is hard, but for me I quite enjoy a challenge.

10. What’s the process, your personal process, behind producing, delivering and selling a record, or a song, be it digital or physical?

Producing a record takes, at minimum, a year. That is with me owning my own studio, and doing all of it myself! It begins with a nudge from the Lord. A call to pray on an idea and to contemplate. A lot of my music and lyrics come from that place of contemplation and prayer. Typically what I will do is write for a few months on the guitar or piano or whatever. No lyrics, only the music. From that foundation I begin lyrics. This is a process of constant reworking. Most lyrics are written on a typewriter. This is due to the nature of my mind. I have terrible handwriting, and when I have an idea that I want to get out fast, it gets even worse. “So why not use a computer and type it up” you ask? Ever notice how distracting grammar and spell check is? Blue and red lines everywhere! It takes you out of the creative realm! Out of that space the Lord can speak! So I bought a typewriter. No blue lines, no red lines, no unreadable handwriting, and it’s much faster. Of course after that begins the recording and production process. Any of the gear junkies will enjoy this part! All recording takes place with as much analog equipment as possible, typically starting right at the source with a decent microphone. I use an analog Tascam M-312b mixer from the 80s. Out of the 12 direct outs into the direct inputs on my Digidesign 003. Old equipment, great sound. I love the 003 because it has so many more capabilities and options than modern interfaces. From there, I use Studio One and Protools as a Tape reel. Typically I try to mix from the M-312b and patch to other equipment. Now a lot of this obviously depends on collab efforts. From there it is distributed and sold/streamed. I am on all major platforms! Feel free to check it out, as I have new music coming soon!

11. Tell us about your musical compositions. I somewhere see songs like “The touch is dense” and “Almond blue”. What does these songs talk about?

Two of my more popular songs, particularly “The Touch is Dense.” This is a bluesy song about the Eucharist. I had been an Extraordinary Minister for years, but at one point I was bringing the Eucharist to the choir loft. I was in this 3 foot wide double staircase, in the dark, alone with the Creator of the universe. I looked down at the Ciborium I am holding and it feels so heavy. As I get up to the choir, and give out communion, the host feels heavy in my hands. It was almost as if the touch of Christ was dense, the inch wide wafer was dense, and heavy in my hands. This was the inspiration for The Touch is Dense, which is actually something most people don’t know! You heard it here everyone,!

12. What do you think about asceticism?

At its extreme we are looking at someone stepping out of culture completely and acting as a sort of anarchist in a sense. Anarchy in the form of silent meditation and fasting is nothing evil though. In its pure form (pure being its most authentic form) we are looking at a healthy daily fast. These kinds of things bring us closer to Him, if done in line with Him. Typically asceticism is considered extreme at first consideration. Usually it may be true. I don’t call “lent” ascetic, but I digress. Those are some thoughts for consideration.

13. Let’s talk about the so-called ‘‘christian music’’: those who sing for Christ. Here in Italy we have a few catholic artists. One of my favorite is Mirael, an italian cantautrice. Do you ever listen to christian catholic musicians? Do you have any favourite artist?

There are few great Catholic artists in my opinion. I believe we have veered into an era where only secular music can be truly creative. If you are singing or writing about God, one tends to be more careful with what they say or play, and with good reason. But to be honest, relinquishing the power of creativity is weak and gives power to culture. There is obviously some great music out there focused on Christ, perhaps not Catholic, but Christian nonetheless. For example, Josh Garrels is doing some amazing work. His production as well as lyrical elements is something to aspire towards. There’s also Liz Vice out of Portland. She combines Gospel and 60s Soul with a bit of a Jazz influence, at least per my own ear. See, there is a time and place for traditional Christian Contemporary, but it begs asking, is this the limit of God? Now the question of favorite artist is different, because I will assume this includes any and all musicians. Per se John Mayer, Hendrix, J.J. Cale, Led Zeppelin, Ten Years After, Robben Ford and so much more.

14. What is your favourite saint? Any particular devotion to any particular saint? Ever heard of saint Gemma Galgani?

Maybe you can get this question finished off once and for all. It seems to be a go to for my fans! Haha! I must go with Pier Giorgio Frassati, who is blessed, but he has inspired a life of authentic masculinity in me. There’s also Saint Joseph, Max Kolbe, Padre Pio, Clare, and so many more. I can’t say I have heard of Saint Gemma Galgani though. I will do some research on her for sure.

15. “– continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2,12). How it’s going your path to Heaven?

Authenticity, consistency and vulnerability. Those are something I am big on. As I have said before, I like doing things the hard way. Smoking Pipes rather than cigars, listening to music on a vinyl rather than MP3, recording analog rather than digital, cleaning dishes by hand rather than dishwasher. We have lost this ability to do things the hard way. We can’t even make friends the hard way in person! We have to use apps to meet people now! What is happening? Well, number one we aren’t consistent in our striving for Holiness, nor are we vulnerable with our wounds. My entire mission is to reveal these three in a musical form and point our culture back to Him. I am not sure how it is going to be honest! But I’m definitely giving it a go!

God Bless! ~Jordan~

8 pensieri su “Interview with american musician Jordan Kelch: the power of music for Jesus

  1. Leadership qualities and מעשה בראשית. An additional introduction to the Rif halachic commentary to ראש השנה. An attempt to explain the k’vanna of the Siddur.

    A key concept of leadership, it makes an order of priorities. Leadership begins with the designation of labor for Men and Women. The תרי”ג commandments have 3 basic divisions. Positive and Negative commandments, the observance of these commandments, primarily designated for women and secondarily an obligation upon men. The observance of positive time oriented commandments the sole obligation of men within bnai brit Torah society.

    The Torah concept of סמיכה directly learns from the dedication of a korban by a Cohen. The dedication of Moshiach, perhaps the most famous “descendant” dedication of intent – to keep and obey the commandments. The organization and established Order within the pages of the Chumash systematically arranged by פ and ס; chapter and sugia/subchapter. The sages of the Talmud debated whether סמיכות חפשית\learning by adjoining or adjacent ideas applies strictly to דברים or this learning technique applies equally to all 5 Books of the Torah.

    All agree that סמיכות המצגים\association of ideas/ applies to the משנה תורה\דברים. The dispute among the sages, does this sh’itta of learning equally apply to the other 4 Books of the Torah? The sh’itta practiced by this author, that סמיכות המצגים applies across the board for the entire Torah. This opinion, bases itself upon the Order of the Siddur. The k’vanna of the Siddur, from beginning to end, based upon מסיח\to speak; tefilla stands in place of korbanot. Tefilla: מסיח סמכות עליונה\to speak “aimed at” the most high.

    The k’vanna of the Siddur avoda, to do positive time oriented commandments. Specifically to elevate a non Torah commandment unto a Torah commandment. The morning dedication of tefilla begins with the ברוך שאמר והיה העולם. What does this thesis statement refer to? Answer: מעשה בראשית. The kabbala of מעשה בראשית measures (the middot) – the dedication of t’shuva within our hearts.

    The 2nd paraghaph of ברוך שאמר brings a rabbinic blessing containing שם ומלכות. From the verses of Tehillim thereafter till reaching מלך אל חי העולמים … The general term מלך directly refers to middot. אל refers to Divine wisdom. חי refers to the סוד of מעשה בראשית. And העולמים refers to the application of מעשה בראשית to all generations of the Cohen bnai brit chosen people. The sages council not to interrupt with outside conversations, because such an action destroys the power of סמיכות חפשית. This concept defines the k’vanna of the entire Siddur – the avoda of dedicating positive time oriented commandments unto HaShem.

    Women daaven from the Siddur, but they have no Torah obligation to do positive time oriented commandments. The crux of the Siddur, centers upon male Yidden dedicating positive time oriented commandments through aliya\the elevation of rabbinic commandments, like saying Tehillem, unto a the תרי”ג positive time oriented commandment! Tallit and tefillen exist as positive time oriented commandments. These commandments require k’vanna. K’vanna requires Talmud. All the avoda of the halachot learned in Sha’s, its possible to affix these halachot as A. the k’vanna of a Mishna. And B. Affix that Mishna to a specific middle blessing within the language of the Shemone Esrei; therein elevating these rabbinic commandments unto the דאורייתא commandment of tefilla.

    The leadership of the rabbinic sages of the Talmud, they designated the order of labor of men and women in the Cohen nation national walk before HaShem throughout all generations for eternity. Women have no Torah obligation to have children, yet women birth children in every generation! So too apply all the positive time oriented commandments to women. As a woman chooses to birth children so too she can choose to dedicate positive time oriented commandments. And the same rule equally applies to Men. Observance of positive and negative commandments primarily rests upon women to dedicate and do. But men too can choose to do and observe positive and negative commandments.

    The issue of ‘choice’, to do commandments totally invalidates the guilt trip theology of ”SIN”; if a person does not do and keeps the commandments. The tuma theology of messiah Jesus and his cross sacrifice which the apostles claim atones for the SINS of mankind, this false and foreign assimilationist theology has no connection or basis from within the Torah. Jews who believe in Jesus as the messiah, this avoda zara places them under the מעשה בראשית din of כרת.

    The opening blessing (two before, followed by kre’a shma, concluded by the third blessing) twice brings
    בכל יום תמיד מעשה בראשית
    in the opening and conclusion of this first rabbinic blessing which contains שם ומלכות. All the other blessings that follow – they depend\rely upon this opening blessing which contains שם ומלכות. But why the necessity to repete בכל יום תמיד מעשה בראשית at the conclusion of the first opening rabbinic blessing to the kre’a shma?

    Another unique quality within the language of this opening blessing, the contrast of Order as found in this blessing to that of the Order found in the Shabbat additional tefilla.
    אל ברוך גדול דעה … כנגד … תכנת שבת רצית קרבנותיה
    Again, why did the Framers of the Siddur emphasize a particular order of the Hebrew alphabet?

    The Written Torah parshaot contain 2 Crowns which define the Torah. Parshat
    בחקתי: וזכרתי את בריתי יעקוב ואף את בריתי יצחק ואף את בריתי אברהם אזכר והארץ אזכר.
    And Parshat כי תבוא always read before ראש השנה. The Parsha located at the end of the Book ויקרא, the Crown of Gaula – the redemption from g’lut. The Parsha located toward the end of the Book דברים, the Crown of G’lut – the repeating exile of the Cohen nation – condemned for the crimes made by our people – we choose to assimilate unto foreign cultures and customs; we both profane and abandon the oath brit ways of the chosen Cohen nation; making a Torah blessing qualifies as swearing a Torah oath. These two Crowns of the Torah – the responsibility of Torah faith rests upon the shoulders of each and every generation of bnai brit Israel.

    The emphasis of the order of the Hebrew alphabet letters teaches the k’vanna of מעשה בראשית, as expressed through tefilla. The additional tefilla said on Shabbot bases itself upon the מעשה בראשית brit of Gaula. Whereas the Shemone Esrei validate – by answering Amen – to the Torah curses which define g’lut; learned from the plagues with destroyed Par’o and Egypt in the days of Moshe and Aaron. The Order of the Shemone Esrei, in its turn, learns from בכל לבבך ובכל נפשך.

    The heart contains plural Yatzirot. Also the soul – has multiple facets; the multiple faceted soul learns from the 12 stones upon the breastplate of Aaron. Each and every Yom Tov, as expressed daily in the six blessings which surround the middle blessings within the Shemone Esrei (3 + 13 + 3)\613, they affix to the Divine Names of the multiple faceted nefesh. Ya\Pesach; Ha’El\Shevuoth; El\Rosh HaShanna; Elohim\Yom Kippur; El Shaddai\Sukkot; and Eish Ha’Elohim\Shemini Atzeret. The Divine Name of the faceted nefesh dedicated on Shabbot – shalom. These dedication of ‘lights’, they learn from the menorah.

    Tefilla – the defining positive time oriented commandment – a duty of the heart like all other positive time oriented commandments. The Spirit of HaShem, expressed through middot, forever lives within the brit Cohen national hearts. My Sanhedrin peers thought they could translate the Siddur to their flaw concept of bnai Noach – which they based upon the erroneous halacha of the Rambam. Impossible to translate a positive time oriented mitzva into words! Equal and like reasoning explains my opposition to the Art Scroll siddur and Talmudic translations. The distinction between the Yom Tov tefilla from the Shabbot tefilla, compares to rear and front sights in a rifle. K’vanna continually aligns the two sights to take aim and dedicate middot unto HaShem – whose Spirit dwells within the bnai brit hearts, and not in the heavens above.

    "Mi piace"

  2. Thoughts on the Yom HaDin upon the Brit – ראש השנה.

    As the month of Elul comes to a close, the open window to contemplate t’shuva slowly begins to shut. Can t’shuva create a new creation from nothing? No. T’shuva requires the dedication of Will to make changes in life habits. To change the natural course taken by a powerful river – exceptionally difficult. Some refer to Man as a creature of habits. Europeans have the habit of behaving as bullies, prone to extreme acts of violence at the drop of a leaf; possessed by a cursed lycanthrope mental insanity. A leopard cannot change its spots. Religion and culture serve to camouflage the mentally deranged European mind. On the other side of the equation: can Jews ever forgive European sub-human apes?

    T’shuva: a most perplexing problem. Could post Shoah Israel ever “trust” that European interests will never again scapegoat Jews? No. Europeans do not merit “trust” ever again. European governments employ “Peace efforts” to conceal that no peace can ever exist between post Shoah Jewry and Europe: that which is crooked can never be made straight.

    Europe did not “SIN” against the Jewish people any more than Man can sin against G-d for not keeping the law. The latter term of reference clearly refutes the New testament rhetoric theology. That Roman\Greek imitation attempt to duplicate prophesy failed on the chief cornerstone which distinguishes the oath brit faith from keeping the commandments. New testament propaganda asserts that the brit and obedience to the Commandments exist as a unified whole. No.

    A person worships HaShem by observance of the Commandments. But observance of Commandments – totally optional and voluntary. The Torah does not obligate anyone to keep the commandments just as the Torah does not oblige a person to dedicate a korban. A person who brings a korban does so to express the t’shuva of his Will. A person who makes a public show of offering a korban, lacking t’shuva, that korban occupies the function of a barbecue to heaven. The two burnt offerings, the bookends of the Cohen Temple serve, serve the function, to remember מעשה בראשית.

    The Talmud distinguishes between obligatory commandments from רשות\permission authority to keep commandments. Both Men and Women stood and accepted the Torah at Sinai. Men committed the avoda zara of the golden calf. Therefore, post golden calf, just as women have permission to keep and do positive time oriented commandments; measure for measure: men have permission to keep and do positive and negative commandments. The avoda zara of the golden calf forever serves as mussar to the generations of the chosen Cohen nation prior to ראש השנה. A leopard cannot change its spots.

    The language of obligatory commandments stands upon the יסוד that Man fully dedicates his Will to doing t’shuva. Every person living has ‘bad hair days’. T’shuva compares to a Man who cheats on his wife, and that wife forgives him. Twenty years down the road, what happens when that Man encounters a riveting and arousing younger woman, who too wants sex? Torah obligations to keep commandments apply strictly and only to the baali t’shuva. Yiddishkeit makes no allowance for the Son of God – who never sinned – foreign theology narishkeit.

    The two opposing poles of the מעשה בראשית battery: G’lut vs. Gaulah. A person cannot accept the yoke of the kingdom of Heaven without the dedication of both Yatzirot to righteous justice among our People. Consequently, the guilt of “SIN“, means nothing to a Man who has no t’shuva; any more than does ‘fear of Heaven’ apply to a Man who has no shame. Goyim who do not keep the commandments do not sin because – what do these Goyim know about t’shuva? European Goyim chose to believe the new testament rhetoric propaganda; they voluntarily bought into the Xtian ‘Fire & Brimstone’ – Satan guilt trip; as they equally believed the blood libels and host desecration slanders.

    However Goyim never accepted the revelation of the Torah at Sinai and Horev. Consequently they most certainly have no “obligation” to keep and do Torah commandments. The Pauline rhetoric: “you’re not under the Law”, seved as nothing more than a red herring. A distraction from the theological holes within the false messiah Jesus theology: Goyim require no messiah to save them from any heavenly decreed Hell damnation.

    "Mi piace"

        1. Theology – all about what sheople should believe. Creeds etc do not exist without theology. I believe blah blah likewise cannot exist without theology. The Torah does not recognize any form of theology as valid.

          "Mi piace"

            1. Silly we Jews our faith stands upon the brit cut with HaShem by Avraham, Yitzak, and Yaacov. You Goyim – even according to your apostle Paul – seek to graft yourselves upon the Jewish tree of life.

              "Mi piace"


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